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joelovetofoot 
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 Topic: Step OffPosted: November 11 2009 at 12:50am |
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Could anyone help me trouble shoot my long line step off?
I learned to foot this summer by doing a long line deep laying on my back, now that I am more comfortable on my feet I am trying to learn the step off. I have no access to a boom so I am doing all my learning long line right now. My problem is that when I remove my back foot, the ski gets wild before I can get my back foot on the water and stable. I am using an old wooden combo ski. Fri I will be out and try again, I moved the bindings back about 6 inches to see if that helps. Any suggestions? Edited by joelovetofoot - November 11 2009 at 9:59am |
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Hollywood
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 11:56am |
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Usually the "stock" binding placement on a combo ski is fine, but moving it backwards will definitely make it MORE squirrely. If anything, you should try moving it forward 1" max from the original placement. Also, the flatter the ski the more stable it will ride straight at barefoot speeds. Is the fin straight?
Edited by Hollywood - November 11 2009 at 11:57am |
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TeddyK
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 6:11pm |
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Joelovetofoot it sounds as if your leaning to far forward to get your back foot out. when your weight is to forward your ski will get squarely. you should have good knee bend in your front foot and try to stay centered over your foot( best control) when you plant your footing foot it should be slightly in front of the ski foot. from there its just a good one foot position good knee bend weight should be over your footing foot.
push down on your ball of your ski foot pulling your heal up towards your butt. then put that foot back on the water heres the important part dont transfer your weight until both feet are footing then transfer or center your weight.
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LaurelLakeSkier
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 8:30pm |
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You might also want to check that the fin is tight.....I've been on some skis with a wobbly fins and they gave pretty wild ride. As Hollywood mentioned, a flat bottomed ski will usually track in a straight line better than a concave bottom......those are made for turning.
To get the feel initially, you could also start on two skis, drop one and then gently set your foot down on the water slightly in front of the foot in the binding, get to where you feel solid and then have the boat pick up speed. Slowly transfer your weight from the ski over to the foot and make your step off. While you are making your step off, hold a good barefoot position being sure to keep bent knees. |
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joelovetofoot
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 9:28pm |
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Hi, thanks for all the reply's,
The fin is tight, but I am not sure where the bindings should be placed, I reclaimed these old wooden flat dogs from the family junk (antique) pile and refinished them. There were holes all over the place so I was not sure where to put the bindings. I found some front toes around which I am using front and back. If someone can tell me how to use the picture device I will upload pics.
Could someone please post measurements of your wooden footing ski?
overall length
tip to beginning of front toe
tip to beginning of rear toe
tail to end of rear toe
Thanks!
PS, Hi to the WI crew! I spent my summers in tomahawk as a kid and still get up to the lake for a week or two every summer, If I can get this down, maybe footstock next summer?
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FooterDale
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 7:23am |
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With the bindings off, find the center balance point of the ski. To do this balance the ski on a small rod. The front binding usually splits the center balance center point
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joelovetofoot
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:59am |
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Thanks,
Should I leave the fin on when finding the balance point?
Is that the center of the front binding, or the center of the front toe piece, that splits the center point of the ski?
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FooterDale
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Posted: November 13 2009 at 8:29am |
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I do it with the fin off.
The center of ski can match the center of your foot. |
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BarefooterMS
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Posted: November 15 2009 at 12:20am |
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Buy or build you a set of shoe skies if you haven't already, get some time on the water and you want need to step off.
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BFTR
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Posted: November 24 2009 at 2:31pm |
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Try placing your foot in the water at slalom ski speeds then have your driver gitty-up. Don't take your ski foot off until you're well set on your foot in the water. Unweighting the ski should stabilize it. Just don't rush it. Wait for speed. You don't want a mouthful of ski.
If you're doing one foots...do lots more. Step-off start is essentially a one foot. Get low and over that foot in the water without losing your glide ... Good luck. |
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Posted: November 27 2009 at 8:47pm |
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FORGET the binding. Get some non skid or just sprinkle some fine sand in some fresh paint on top of the ski.. Its just as easy to come up with no bindings as with.. Once the pull has you pushing against the ski the binding is irrelevant.. Just hold the ski on your foot with one hand, the handle in the other and give the OK to go.. Once you get the slightest pull you go back to the handle with both hands and youre up.. EASY PEEEZY
To step off, lightly plant at slalom speed, the boat should then get to speed, get an on speed signal from the boat and rock over the plant foot.. The ski will disappear.. UNLESS youre using a tunnel bottom ski.. That one comes up and hits you in the carrot and potatoes .. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> |
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joelovetofoot
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Posted: January 02 2010 at 11:25am |
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Thanks for all the input. I never got another chance to test out my drop ski's before the lake froze, so I will continue this in the summer. In the mean time. here is some more info for your consideration. If I pull my foot out when the boat is slower- 28-30 I am fine getting out of the ski. It only gets squirly @ higher speeds. The reason I would like to learn this is because it looks like you have to step off @ full speed in figure 8 comps, and I would like to try that someday soon. Maybe I just need to make a quick dileberate move to get my foot out and on the water @ high speeds? Any tips from figure 8 guys?
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joelovetofoot
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Posted: January 05 2010 at 10:51pm |
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Good news, I upgraded from the bayliner to a 1980 mastercraft with a boom so that should help a lot!
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Posted: January 05 2010 at 11:17pm |
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OK.. I will ask the question everybody else is thinking.. Whats the good news?? 1908 MC??? < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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BFTR
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 9:19am |
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Prick - lol! We need to share a pint!
Hope he got the 10ft boom extension. Edited by BFTR - January 06 2010 at 9:20am |
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joelovetofoot
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 9:20am |
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Ha Ha, Oscar, your so funny, If you must know, being a newby, going from a 125hp bayliner, to a 255hp mastercraft with a boom is a big step up. Especially on my budget. It should be great for my next year of learning, and by the end of next year, I have more saved up, and be able to trade up again. Not all of us are rich oil tycoons after all.
 Any more input on my questions above would be a great help, (harasment about what kind of boat I can afford - not so helpful.)
thanks, Joe
PS Isnt it summer there?
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Hollywood
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 5:21pm |
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There isn't any more to say, you're going to have to go out there and take a few diggers to figure it out.
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joelovetofoot
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 9:55pm |
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Ok, well, thanks for the input.
Till spring I will be bungee footin in the basement and watchin footin vids.
Cheers!
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Drock
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Posted: January 13 2010 at 12:38pm |
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What is bungee footin?
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Footer65
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 3:38pm |
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socks on feet, bungee around door knob, run as far across the room as possible, quick back to front and ski it back to the door?
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 5:36pm |
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Here is how I see that happening.. Bungee around door knob.. Run as hard as I can.. door knob comes off and hit me in the back of the head with a vengeance... Another barefooting scar to show my friends and get laughed at.. That would go right along with my Super Bowl injury.. I fell and hit my head while staggering to get another beer while watching the Super Bowl.. Winter sports are just too dangerous... < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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Footer65
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 5:48pm |
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That's about how my snowmobile ride went the other day. The moment my thought process was saying to slow down I was over the front at 70mph and doing the rag doll front flips followed by a smooth body slide. The door knob was my sled which then caught up and slammed me in the head. Broken sled parts, broken helmet and humiliation restored. Why wait till summer to get that first faceplant.
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joelovetofoot
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 10:06pm |
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I did a few out the front's on the ski hill today, great practice for the tuck and roll. Yardsale!
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Drock
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Posted: January 15 2010 at 12:10am |
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Foot, I have a hard time believing that you don’t have a room lined with rubber padding entirely for bungee footin. It sounds like you guys (the ones trying to kill themselves) have cabin fever as bad as I have it. |
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Posted: January 24 2010 at 11:31pm |
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I have a rubber room but it aint for bungee footing.. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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